Just To Make A Point

Let’s do a little exercise in extrapolation to give everyone a better idea of the sheer number of guns and gun owners in this country.

Let’s say, this is where you live just for fun,

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It’s a pretty nice place and since we aren’t actually paying for it here it will serve the purpose.

Now let’s say that you, your wife and 2.5 children plus a pet all live here and things are going pretty good so there is nothing to distract us here.

Let’s also say that you are one of MILLIONS of Americans who happen to own a gun for self defense.

We will use a 12 gauge Mossberg pump action model for example.

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OK, so far, so good.

One guy, one family, one house and one gun.

Now let’s back out a little bit.

Let’s say that these are your immediate neighbors on one side of the street you live on.

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Now using some VERY conservative numbers just for our purposes here, let’s say that every third house in this picture also has a gun owner living there and that guy also has one gun.

Now let’s back out a bit more and we will keep using this same formula. Every third house has one gun in it.

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Remember, one gun, every third house.

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This is just Los Angeles, as seen from space.

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One gun, every third house.

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Now then.

Remember, this was one gun in every third house. We didn’t include guy’s like this, of whom there are very, very many.

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Somebody smarter than I am please explain to me exactly how you are going to take everyone’s guns away in this country?

 

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Here is a message for all you Gun Grabbers that you should really take to heart.

You have absolutely no fucking clue as to the absolute shit storm you are playing around with here but we would be more than happy to show you.

Try and take them and we will.

 

 

 

33 thoughts on “Just To Make A Point

    • That begs the question how many who own weapons have more than one firearm?

      Here in WV your born with a rifle in one hand and a CAT joystick or tractor steering wheel in the other.
      You acquire weapons your whole life.
      A neighbor down the road 5 miles died last year in his comfy chair, an AK leaning against the coffee table and 4 pallets of 1000 round cases of ammo in his dining room.
      Everyone I know has at the least a dozen arms of various sorts.
      The coal mines when the coal market is going well gives out rifles like movie tickets and gift cards to get and keep miner’s, they run contests for personal safety, attendence, coming up with ideas to improve productivity etc.
      Some give you yearly points towards guns, hunting gear, archery and so on.
      1st day of Squirrel season starts as a two day state wide kids only season, with front page pics and write up in the newspapers about kids bagging their first tree rat.
      Two years now since the state legislature voted to make Constitutional carry the only weapons law.
      The WV state police where livid, blood spitting mad, the top brass got on the TV and threatened everyone this was “their state” and we would see just how this unrestricted weapons ownership and use would end up.
      I’m not embellishing one bit here. These armed badged organized crime gang leaders acted live on TV exactly like we are something bad smelling you scrape off you foot, and they the masters of the universe.
      I watched it with my own eyes, because I had been watching live the legislative session and vote at the state house. The WV SP had called a news conference prior to the vote and the camera’s went straight to it after it CC was voted in. It was a bit past half past 10:30pm.
      No surprise, that WV State Police news conference never showed up on the fake media programming or print far as I know.
      It was a most ugly and revelatory experience. A display of raw naked power and hatred for Liberty in no uncertain terms. These cops that stood there and declared themselves the ruling power in the state was like watching something from a dystopian big screen pedowood production. You could not script and act it better than live.

      Disarmament is not all marxist/commie ideology and agenda. Some is simply old fashioned simple raw naked thirst for power.

      This is of all the stuff I’ve read regarding the 2nd Amendment in no uncertain terms the finest essay of the right to arms and self defense. Nothing comes close in my book:

      THE HISTORY OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT
      https://guncite.com/journals/vandhist.html

      by David E. Vandercoy
      Copyright © 1994 Valparaiso Univ. Law Review.
      Originally published as 28 Val. L. Rev. 1007-1039 (1994)

      It is actually relatively brief, incredibly succinct, and to the point. It is also a modern essay, upon the classical ideas and reason that made America and the only real successful revolution of self determination, sovereign individual, Not The State, and Liberty possible.
      it is such a great read because so much contained within identifies in hard ass detail, to whats going on presently.
      I read it frequently, along with The Declaration of Independence, I find it refreshes my resolve and bolsters my couyrage because a man needs that in order to be a prepared Freeman these days.
      To me the DOI is the greatest document on rightful freedom and it’s cause of resistance to all tyranny ever written. The culmination of 2000 years of Greco/Roman Christian culture and history. The history of the 2nd essay here is a must read because they both substantiate and support each other, one historically, the other thru hard cold truth and righteous cause, very much complimentary. In the most down to earth No BS terms too. These guys who wrote this stuff where nobody’s fools and new exactly what they are about. It’s what guns are for. Very refreshing and fortifying.
      NOT what all the cockroaches scumbags and scalawags try to tell us who we are.
      Kiss my ass.

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  1. One gun, every third house in Los Angeles. This is the reason I will never be
    pessimistic about the future of America. I read a story about a resident of
    Beverley Hills or Palos Verdes after the 1992 riots. The conservative author
    wrote that a number of his liberal neighbors were asking to borrow one of his
    firearms. His answer was no, you had your chance.

    I have always adhered to what I call the dynamic model of politics. Much like
    economics, society swings from one side to the other on a cyclical basis much
    like climate change (if such a thing exists.) Nixon and Reagan were a product
    of out of control liberal government and so-called “peaceniks” running riot in the
    streets. Reagan’s landslide victory was accredited to the Moral Majority, and
    he won Marxifornia twice!

    The next Moral Majority will come out of the left field. It is going to be well-intentioned
    suburban liberals in deep-blue cities. The insanity of the current Democrat party
    will cause blowback from middle-class liberals. Their primary concerns will be
    30-year-old trannies sharing a bathroom with their 9-year-old daughters in school,
    their 17-year-old daughter getting her ass kicked in high school sports by a
    biological male, the scourge of illegal aliens and the vicious crimes they commit
    against American people, and the tons of garbage, piles of human shit, and
    drug needles littering once-great cities.

    Most liberals love their children as much as conservatives do. They are
    barraged by propaganda telling them they have to buy shitbox economy
    cars but suburban liberals are one of the (if not the biggest group of
    people who buy SUV’s) Why? They understand that mass=safety!

    If President Trump campaigns in my state, he stands a very good chance
    of winning California!

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  2. The reported number of Guns In America, estimated at 400 million, I feel is short by 200 million or so, not including black powder weapons (either muzzle loaders or bp cartridges) that with a tad of tlc will function perfectly fine over 120 years after the last one was made. Heck, a pre-Rev War Brown Bess or Charleville musket could still function (and many do, thanks to the Rev War freaks. And all those percussion weapons of the Civ War freaks. Hmmm, wonder if anyone has made sabot slugs for Rev War weapons… hmmmm.)

    Lots more guns and lots and lots more ammo out there than most people believe.

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    • The home built weapons movement is really turning into a revolutionary act enjoyed by millions. It is as open source, insurgent, grass roots as it gets.
      How can it be stopped?
      Seriously, it is a great question, and it pertains straight back to the question Phil raises.

      The BATF has painted itself into a corner with it’s arbitrary definitions of what a firearm is. Without going total 110% fullbore dystopian tyrant, it can not outlaw the parts not classified by it’s inalienable “laws”, which are created without The Congress involved to begin with, so they are diktat and de-facto attainders of writ. Not Rule of Law, but rule of men.
      So as American’s we are born revolutionaries, at least us who ain’t surrender monkeys and sucking statist quo commie dick to save their useless hides, and git er done being a nationalistic motto, to stop the so called 80% build movement, or those super scary “Ghost Guns” you got to outlaw drills, blocks of forged aluminum alloy, 4140 steel alloy bar stock, milling machines, lathes, drill presses, files and hack saws even.
      Then the plastics composite printers, and 3D software, those guys are coming up with everything from magazines to fully functional weapons.

      We are a technological, high grade innovative craftwork orientated people, nothing is impossible with such creative motivation, add in the self defense, and defending ones family, property and tribe, shit you don’t need any higher calling or motivational reason to make your own.
      And we are only talking about Rifles. There is a whole world of weapons anyone with basic skill sets and ingenuity can consider.

      Not for nothing, these disarmament hoplophobe jamokes, they ain’t thinking this out. We are all being nice and polite, we aren’t copping an attitude, or got these ulterior and ideological notions of unlimited raw naked power over those we don’t approve of or like.
      We ain’t pie hole spewing diarrhea of the mouth maniacs going on about racial bigotry genocide etc.
      Minding our own business is what we are.
      One day we aren’t going to be very nice if these idiots don’t back the fuck off.
      It’s not threat or hot air.
      Because if for no other reason and man there’s one heck of a lot of reasons, these idiots are out to grease our arses. Like kill us all. They make no bones about it.
      By any standard, not just a few of us are men who will back down from such threat to limb life and property.

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      • I did 6 years in the Army. The bulk in combat. They stripped me of my guns because of a psychotic, lying ex wife. But that’s OK with me. When the party starts, I have a knife, so I will get a pistol. With that pistol, I will get a rifle.

        In the army, one of the nifty little tricks I picked up was making medium grade explosives from garden dirt. With that, I will get whatever the hell I decide I want.

        I thought I was sick in the head for enjoying taking out the enemy in the army. But, I gotta tell you, after what these folks have done to me and my country over the past 30 or so years? My enjoyment in the army was NOTHING compared to what I am hoping to do soon.

        When it starts, if you are on the wrong side of it, don’t bother to look for me. By the time you realize I am there, it will be FAR too late for you.

        My friends died for the rights they took from me. GOD have mercy upon them, because I WON’T!

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    • The home built weapons movement is really turning into a revolutionary act enjoyed by millions. It is as open source, insurgent, grass roots as it gets.
      How can it be stopped?
      Seriously, it is a great question, and it pertains straight back to the question Phil raises.

      The BATF has painted itself into a corner with it’s arbitrary definitions of what a firearm is. Without going total 110% fullbore dystopian tyrant, it can not outlaw the parts not classified by it’s inalienable “laws”, which are created without The Congress involved to begin with, so they are diktat and de-facto attainders of writ. Not Rule of Law, but rule of men.
      So as American’s we are born revolutionaries, at least us who ain’t surrender monkeys and sucking statist quo commie dick to save their useless hides, and git er done being a nationalistic motto, to stop the so called 80% build movement, or those super scary “Ghost Guns” you got to outlaw drills, blocks of forged aluminum alloy, 4140 steel alloy bar stock, milling machines, lathes, drill presses, files and hack saws even. Outlaw a man’s workshop?.
      Then the plastics composite printers, and 3D software, those guys are coming up with everything from magazines to fully functional weapons.
      You start to get into having to run a police state, where there are no rules but the rules us Deplorable’s have to obey and comply with. Arbitrary power. We are that close. The assholes are putting their toes across that threshold, with red “Laws” which are NOT laws, they are created out of whole cloth bullshit make believe justification to do anything to get around our natural freedoms and liberty.

      We are a technological, high grade innovative craftwork orientated people, nothing is impossible with such creative motivation, add in the self defense, and defending ones family, property and tribe thing, you don’t need any higher calling or motivational reason to make your own, defy and fight.
      And we are only talking about Rifles here. There is a whole world of weapons anyone with basic skill sets and ingenuity can consider. Anything is a weapon in the right hand.

      Not for nothing, these disarmament hoplophobe jamokes, they ain’t thinking this out. We are all being nice and polite, we aren’t copping an attitude, or got these ulterior and ideological notions of unlimited raw naked power over those we don’t approve of or like.
      We ain’t pie hole spewing diarrhea of the mouth maniacs going on about racial bigotry genocide etc.
      Minding our own business is what we are.
      One day we aren’t going to be very nice if these idiots don’t back the fuck off.
      It’s not threat or hot air.
      Because if for no other reason and man there’s one heck of a lot of reasons, these idiots are out to grease our arses. Like kill us all. They make no bones about it.
      By any standard, not just a few of us are men who will back down from such threat to limb life and property. When pushed to such lengths, we are exceedingly good at fighting back.

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  3. Based on the best figures around there are at least 80 (reality is probably more like 100) MILLION law abiding gun owning Citizens, and no telling how many criminals! Best guesstimate is at least 300 (possibly as high as 600) MILLION privately owned firearms – again NOT counting those the criminals have. But the hoplophobes “think” they can find all of them and confiscate them – well except for those the criminals have.
    Good luck boys and girls, pack a lunch (several) as even if there was NO resistance (yeah right) to such an unlawful act, it WILL take a while – at the lower end it would mean each and every copper around would have to pack up about 100 guns…………………
    Oh wait, never mind the antis think we will simply meekly turn them all in, diefi (feinstein) said so nearly 30 years ago.

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    • These are the same people that swear up and down they can’t locate and deport *wink*wink* Ten *wink*wink* million illegal aliens in this country.

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  4. Interesting how they tell us its useless to try rounding up 20 million illegals. You just couldn’t find them all.
    But they think they’re going to get all the guns?

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  5. BTW,
    Mel (of Dragon Man Arms, pictured with a FEW of his toys) is having another machinegun shoot on Sept. 14th & 15th. Admission is $10, bring lots of cash for the rentals.

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  6. The problem is, they won’t make a frontal assault like you’d want. They pass red flag laws and get LE to do the dirty work. Disarm people one at a time is all they’re looking to do. All we can hope for is enough LE personnel ignore these consfiscation laws.

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    • Poking the bear has never been a good strategy.
      They are vastly outnumbered and even more vastly out gunned. Picking off one here and one there is going to start making people even more anxious. Pick the wrong one and you hit the lottery.
      The LEO’s aren’t completely stupid, they are very aware they are outnumbered ten to one. This is why they are so fucking jumpy.

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      • Shawn is correct though.

        How does one boil a frog?

        Slowly.

        They’ll nibble away. And then use Red Flag to take a bunch. How many others will resist (or even notice until it is too late) if it is an undeclared war?

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      • It would play out something like this:
        First few doors get kicked in at zero dark thirty and then the second amendment advocates would get smart and the next time a bunch of leos would suffer and possibly die in the process. More force and more deaths would ensue. Ultimately, the leos would not willingly participate in any more confiscations out of fear for their health.

        If the federal forces get involved it is game on. I doubt any of us would sit back if we knew this was going on for real. My sons are vets and both agree that the citizen is right in this case and would not respond if called back to service.

        The gun grabbers are spouting fantasy and will resort to incrementalism of regulation as their back up tactic and they are more than happy to take 30 years to get this done. That is how determined they are to force socialism upon us in the form that existed in the USSR. Social planners hold high levels of control in a society like that.

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  7. a few thoughts that might get me red flagged….
    if…IF… the gestapo were to kick in my door looking for guns and i would unload as many rounds as possible before being killed/apprehended, if i aim for the legs:
    1) there is little/no body armor on the legs…and if i miss the first leg, there are plenty more behind in the stack
    2) it would be hard to charge me with attempted murder if i am trying to wound and not kill
    3) every goon i send to the hospital is one less that will be coming for the next guy
    4) who want’s to be first in line knowing the guy in side is going to knee cap him??
    5) at my age, life without parole isn’t much of a threat. in fact, three hots, a cot, and free medical might not be a bad deal.

    just a thought, not a plan or advice for anyone.

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    • I am already red flagged. So I don’t fucking CARE what they think. I will speak freely. That is my right as enshrined in the constitution. They have been stripping away our constitutional protections for years folks. To our current government, and some of them have actually stated this, the constitution is a problem!

      They already have the laws about domestic violence. My ex accused me of it after the split. I went to jail for a month, not knowing what I was accused of, sure, I knew it was her, but I had zero details. So, the restriction about knowing the nature of the charges against us is no longer valid in our courts and legal system. Then, they chained me up and dragged me to court.

      I understood the accusation when she was called to the stand and stood up and with HUGE, exaggerated stage motions, took the scarf off from around her neck. 4 VERY black marks on each side of her neck! She takes the stand and tells her story. Part of it was “and then he grabbed me by the throat with his right….. no, his LEFT hand and beat me in the face with something in his right fist.

      Anything that applied enough force to her neck to make THOSE marks, would have crushed her windpipe and killed her. Absolutely no possible way in this universe they were natural! But, at least now I knew what it was I was up against. And unless you are a contortionist, you cannot make marks on BOTH sides of their neck. Try it with your arm extended as if you were holding someone by the throat and punching them. Now, turn your hand over and try again.

      I got less than a minute and a half to consult with a lawyer I had never met. I told him, I only want to hear about ONE thing here! When he started to speak, the judge turned to his left and I watched him looking at a series of pictures of her with the makeup marks on her neck on his laptop. I knew he had not listened to a single word of my defense when he turned and asked if I had anything to say before he sentenced me.

      That’s not quite true. I knew he was not listening when he did not look up at me as I held my left hand up to back up what the lawyer was saying. You see, my left hand was mutilated in the army. I only have 3 fingers on it and two of those lost 60% of their strength because of the nerve damage when I was hit. I was in total shock! All I could say to the judge was “YES! I have something to say! Do not release me until you are ready for me to run! Because I do not care what parole or probation you order, the instant my feet hit the street, I am G.O.N.E. gone, out of here and away from your corruption!”

      Due to that conviction, I am not allowed to own a gun. I am not allowed to touch a gun. In fact, if someone were to drop a round in my car and a cop found it, I would be off to federal prison. They have been disarming us for YEARS! One by one, with their unconstitutional laws. The founders ALL expressed the same opinion as Thomas Jefferson when he said “No freeman shall be debarred the use of arms.” And now they want “red flag” laws? How about we just lock up criminals instead of tossing them back on the streets? How about we punish perpetrators and not everyone who didn’t do it?

      They have already taken our constitution away from us folks! Trust me, the founding fathers would have been stacking bodies a long, LONG time ago!

      I am just waiting for you folks up north to start the party. I reside south of Cancun right now because no matter how far away I moved, my ex kept tracking me down and accusing me of shit I did not do! It was proven she lied against me, when She showed up at the hospital claiming I had “Beat her in the face with a hammer.” Only, by sheer chance, I called the cop just as he came back to his office, then, within 35 minutes of her report, proved I was physically over 1,000 miles away. She spent almost 2 hours in jail and got 5 whole hours of community service for that one.

      Of course I never got my almost $100,000 worth of guns or my rights back. The judge refused to void the conviction. And, I moved here after the final straw of the VA trying to kill me off. Just too much shit to deal with via what they have left us as recourse. They have left us no choice. We ALL know it. So, whats the hold up?

      If I thought I could have any effect on my own, I would be on my way as I write this. My friends died for the rights we used to have. They died to maintain our freedom. Freedom we are allowing them to strip away a little more every day. That it has taken this long to start the party sickens and disgusts me! And I can tell you, there are more just like me down here, waiting. Wishing America would get off her ASS and do something about this shit!

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  8. Notice, every conceivable effort has been made, no expense spared, to besmirch and de-legitimize the idea of the so called 3%. The Peoples Militias’a also included, which where for more than a century an integral part of regular folks civilization, by 1919 the entire construct of The Militia had been changed into a national guard and what we have today.

    The point here, is this is classic projection, same as everything having to do with white men, is racssisst.

    I think there is a great deal of mind fuck involved here, not a little, people mind fucking themselves because they don’t understand some basic truths. This can be argued to death, and it is.
    As Phil points out with cold reasoning and some basic critical thinking the truth is very different than the approved narratives and agitprop. Of course. Psyching us out into surrendering our manly rights as free men of the west is part and parcel of the strategy of disarming us all. These red flag “laws”, inalienable laws, basically diktat are employed for a myriad of very useful reasons.
    I believe the number one purpose is to emasculate us. Use fear as a weapon to disarm us in our minds, it is marxian tradecraft. The 2nd is to further use fear to divide people, keep them off balance, unable or afraid of uniting thus becoming even more indomitable. Think Legion. If we are legion in numbers, imagine when we become A Legion of armed free men.
    This red law bullshit is psycological warfare writ huge.
    Another purpose is not to outlaw our property, but to outlaw persons.
    See what they did here?
    You can get more people to hate outlawed people than outlawed inanimate objects, there is a built in emotional factor that is far more personal across a wider body of the public.

    It is also a double whammy, (actually it is 4 way whammy), you have outlaw selected group of men, and their property, now you have made them into criminals. Very convenient. Hitker, Stalin, Mao etc all used this strategy to genocidal effect. Very hard to counter, peacefully. But we all know where shit is heading, “don’t need a weatherman to know what way the wind blows” as Bob D. said.
    And that is why we have rifles to begin with.
    Onteresting thing about rifles that gets lost in the sauce but can never be stated enough, is the rifle, of all weapons ever devised, is really the queen of battle, far beyond Gen Patton’s admiration, the rifle is, going back to England and how the peasantry was fede up with getting fucked 6 ways to Sunday by every cockroach who usurped some form of power, is what changed everything. The Rifle is the pivotal instrument in power, then, and now, because every man can pick up a rifle, aim it, pull the trigger, and project power, this projection of power suddenly was not the sole purview of tyrants with large armies or police state forces, even the weakest and tiniest of people could suddenly extend ultimate raw naked power beyond the reach of the arm and the sword. A truly profound pivotal juncture in history. Nothing like it before nor since. Nothing has changed about the barrel of the gun and the power that originates within it. But…they are desperate to change the perception of the gun in the hands of free men. Make it, and the free men Evil. Monsters. Blood thirsty racial supremacy mass murderers who are unhinged, out of control, everywhere.
    See what they do there?

    If anything, the Rifle is much improved in key ways. The great equalizer. If anything in regards to that, the Rifle has come of age. The AR in particular because of it’s adaptability, common sense ergonomics, portability, the incredible mind blowing array of gear and accouterments to choose from, it’s modularity, the AR platform truly is the rifle of the people. Us Freemen have made the AR our own in ways as definite and substantial as the very many other aspects and qualities of us as free men.

    Notice how they call our property, our rifle” Assault Rifles”
    Lets cut to the chase here.
    Yeah, only have to think like a hoplophobe to understand whats up.
    They call our rifles assault rifles, because they truly and rightfully fear us using our rifles to assault them for what they are doing, or trying, to do to us.

    Sure they want to take our guns. No self respecting tyrant would believe and act otherwise.
    In no way are they able to come take them.
    They get some free rides for a while.
    A number of us get the shitty end of the stick on that deal as symbolic sacrifices to the gods of genocide and political/cultural sacrificial lambs.
    Free American’s, the not brainwashed, useful idiots, or normie kind, are free people because in the first place they be born into liberty, a most important profound distinction, but furthermore, hey are prudent people, and yes, the most tolerant of people in the west.
    But, there is no middle ground on this. It is an ON – OFF switch.
    We are prudent and tolerant till pushed by others to where we are not.
    Then we become the most violent unstoppable warriors imaginable.
    We don’t go and burn down our cities, we go and raze your enclaves and cities to the ground, and we do not stop until we choose to. We have no mercy. We give no quarter. We care not for you or your ideology, power, etc.

    Lets be conservative:

    One percent, 1% of the US chooses to wage 4th Generation war against our enemies.

    1% of 345,000,000 =’s 3,455,000

    Round it out to 3.5 million.

    Math doesn’t lie.

    An army, of three and a half million pissed off American’s, with the finest combat rifles ever created.

    An Army, a peoples militia, of 3.5 million. There is no army like it. Never has been. 3.5 million very pissed off armed to the teeth men who are plank owners of the territory they live in.

    All this talk about disarmament, neglects one very vital detail: you have to not only disarm us, you have to hold the territory we live in for yourselves, you have to tend it, maintain it, fix it, supply it, you have to defend it.
    Remember, us Freemen, are the ones who make the things, build the things, fix the things, truck the things, grow the tings, generate and transmit the things, we are who maintains the fragile links that hold all the things together.

    Molan Labe motherfuckers

    BFYTW

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    • Yes, “Assault rifles” is the term. Notice please, they want an “Assault weapons” ban. Consider this:

      They pass an “Assault weapons” ban. Someone stabs someone in the eye with a feather. That feather was the “weapon” in an “assault” and is now an “Assault weapon” whereby they can fry the person for violation of the “Assault weapons” ban! You better believe this, WORDS MEAN SOMETHING!

      And I am going to say this, outright, nothing hidden. If johnny law wants to track me down and attempt to arrest me, go ahead. Just make sure you all kiss the wife and kiddies goodby, because I will be a little uncooperative and some of you fucktards are not going home. I am NOT dying alone.

      Two and a half years ago, I was calling for 1 million men to march into DC, armed and angry. Then, build gallows in front of the CONgressional office building and go home. Zero casualties. But this shit MIGHT have stopped.

      A year and a half ago, I was calling for 1 million armed and pissed off men to march into DC and hang half of CONgress. Possibly 1,000 casualties. But, the shit WOULD have stopped.

      Today, you will need those 1 million men to hang EVERY POLITICIAN IN DC! Every fucking one of them! Because the only one in office today who is actually doing fuck all to put an end to this shit is the POTUS. Yes, there a likely one or two others that are actually on the side of the people, but lifes a bitch, they died for their country like my friends died for her. Possibly 3,000 casualties.

      Let this become a civil war? Then there are going to be a MINIMUM of 10 million direct combat casualties and a larger number of “collateral” casualties. And every day we do not act, that number rises. I have been in countries with hot civil wars going on. I know what happens!

      Yes, I am pissed off. I have constant physical pain from my injuries in the military and I am missing some parts of myself. But I am telling you, I have no problem being in pain while I kill the traitors, socialists and commies in my country. And I have no problem dying in that conflict. But I am not getting any younger and the resultant body count grows every day.

      Patriots! Shit, or get off the pot! Inaction is acceptance of what they are doing. And I gotta tell you this, if you accept what they are doing, you are no patriot in my eyes. Nor the eyes of my dead friends who left this world trying to maintain your freedom.

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  9. They don’t take everybody’s guns. They make examples of half a dozen people…..kick in doors, shoot dogs, murder the man then beat the shit out of the family andn put survivors in prison for 25 years. Then announce an amnesty….turn in your guns or face the same abuse. A few hundred thousand people obey out of fear. Then crucify another half dozen gun owners on live TV and offer another amnesty. Rinse and repeat as often as desired. They have the luxury of picking who, when and where they strike and can do so without fear. Until WE make THEM physically afraid for their safety and more importantly the safety of there families they can do as they wish. It might take 20 years but unless opposed by organized effective planned violence they win eventually.

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  10. See your previous post on how easy the government will have it collecting guns from everyone….
    FBI seizes former Marine’s weapons under Oregon’s ‘red flag’ law for remarks about ANTIFA
    Take them time, but they can do it without little to no blood shed by either side.

    Iowadawg.

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  11. Not to be a buzz kill. but should the powers that be shut off the lights and stop food shipments.
    How long could jonny one gun hold out? how long would he watch his 2.5 kids and his wife go hungry and cold, before he turned in his gun? willingly for a loaf of bread.
    How long before he would turn in his neighbor?
    only fools take solace in such fantasy.
    If you doubt me look into the histories of women whoring themselves out for food in a war zone, or quislings turning traitor for an occupying force.
    Get fucking hard get tight with friends plan, develop skills, set in the logistics to support you and yours for the long haul.
    Make lists and get good with what you have

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  12. I’m going to guess a lot of these “fearful” comments being made here are coming from city folks. You know, people in places where 1) They’re outnumbered by gun grabbers 2) don’t know their local popo 3) Have no place/means to live off the land. I got new. For those of us in rural and probably even in suburbia, this “fear” of having guns taken/confiscated/restricted is all somewhat comical. We know the locals wouldn’t allow it. We know the popo wouldn’t go through with it. We’re worried about more immediate and pressing concerns like the liberal agendas being pushed in this country. Because the only way they could ever change the face of this country regarding weapons is to brainwash the sheer bulk of the population into thinking guns aren’t needed. That should be the bigger fear.

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    • RUBY RIDGE come up in your mind at any time while you were typing the above?
      Be far easier to surround a building out in the country, in the forest, where ever is out there, than in the city.
      And the government will have the support of the local police, sheriff….or they will take those in first.
      And remember, a heck of a lot of city dwellers have lots of guns, go to the ranges often, go hunting every chance they get…and they know their neighbors, who is owning and who is not owning…..who is with us or who is against us….
      Unless of course, you really do believe a farmer or rancher is way better than a city dweller??????

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      • Look at the plans of the liberal city dwellers. I infiltrate their little chat groups to keep tabs on them. Their basic plan is to close up their cities and let the gun nuts do whatever they like. When it is over, everything will come out on their terms, their way. As we are aware, they are delusional in this way also.

        Shit hits the fan, they close off their cities. All safe and cozy right? But, the food comes from flyover country. So, within 48 hours, the food will run out and the criminals and moslums will become active, seeking food wherever they can take it. Water, power and egress destroyed, none of which really comes from within their cities, they will live a zombie apocalypse!

        If the people in flyover country just surround those cities and shoot anyone trying to escape, the casualty numbers from direct combat will be minimal and victory fast and sure.

        If you folks think staying home protecting the house, wife and kids is a smart idea? Just give up now. War is hell, I have been there. We did not choose this, but we have to win. That means going mobile and taking the fight to them, so they don’t bring it to your home. Yes, it is a risk. But nobody ever won without taking a risk.

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        • You said it much better than I could have Marcus. The vast majority of people wanting to take our guns, or remove them from society are city slickers. Folks that have never held, shot or understand anything about guns. They’re also seriously lacking in American history. If and when the SHTF, as you said, the cities would be the first to have anarchy and disorder. Because that’s the way the folks living in those places roll. Not all of them mind you, but enough to create anarchy. Those of us in rural places are not “frightened’ if our grocery store closes. We’re not “Frightened” if we have to fend for ourselves, haul our own water, cut our own firewood. My neighbors have fears the city folks will come out this way looking to make their mark. Ain’t gonna happen. Their too chicken shit, and with a gun behind every blade of grass, they damn well know the welcoming committee won’t be too welcoming. I truly feel many so called conservatives are worries about something that WILL NOT happen (gun confiscation, repeal of 2A etc.). Not going to happen folks. Don’t be like the liberals and go absolutely bonkers when someone writes an article saying so, or some poof fool is red flagged. These are isolated incidents that in the scheme of our gun ownership rights aren’t a grain of sand on the beach.

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          • Most likely, when the spark that ignites it all comes, it will be in the city. And the way the left has been spreading the gasoline, the ignition point will be epic! When the red coats rolled into Lexington and Concord demanding the guns, it was (reportedly) a single shot “heard round the world.” My analysis of this says that when it comes, it will be very fast and without specific warning. We have been warned yes, we know whats coming, but there will be no fanfare or such. And, I think it will go coast to coast in a matter of hours. Not so much in the middle, but both coasts will light up fierce and hot. Tens of thousands could die within a matter of a couple days.

            Someone will push too far and it will be like tossing a lit match into a gigantic swimming pool full of gasoline. WHOOSH! I will stay down here for that, thank you very much. You know what happens when a lot of gas is touched off. Hot, fast flames reaching WAY beyond the pool as the vapors ignite. Then, it will retreat to just the gas wet area. In maybe 2 weeks, the lines will start to form.

            Yes, there are lines now, but they are loose and not well defined. In 2 weeks, there will be guards and lookouts posted and communications will start to be established. Things will appear to calm down, however, a week later, there will be serious patrols and neighboring areas will start probing one another. By this time, the cities will be really screwed! My experience says, the cities are full of morons who think they know everything and they will be out of food and water. The criminal elements will be running the streets.

            History says that fence sitters will die first. Neither side will trust them because they did not choose a side before the start of the festivities, so they will take fire from every direction. The conversation the liberals want to have about how “Nobody needs a bunch of guns” will be debunked, when those who did not have a gun, get one from someone with multiple guns.

            And yes, red flag laws are a serious threat. If nothing else, they are absolute proof that those who hold themselves as “elite” actually believe they have the power to pull that shit off. But, they have gotten away with it over the years. Some of those effected by it certainly needed their access to guns restricted. But a surprisingly large percentage of them were red flagged for no reasonable reason. I am one of those. I posted about it elsewhere.

            Thomas Jefferson stated that “No freeman should be disbarred the use of arms.” And all of the founders agreed with him. Remember, they had just revolted against an oppressive government. This is why the second amendment said something no other enumerate right says. “Shall not be infringed” which they meant quite literally!

            I do not think anyone actually knows who said it, but it is still with us to this day. “The beauty of the second amendment is that it will never be needed, until they try to take it away.” Today, they are trying to take it away.

            Gnome Sane?

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        • Again, you all equate ALL cities and city dwellers are liberals shits.
          Shows that YOU do not know crap about citiies, towns and the dwellers or such.
          And keeping track????;hahahhaha
          That is a freaking laugh!
          Aint no one keeping track of me and others who think like me here.
          Trolls are fun though when they do show up on our little part of the internet….we then say things like :boy, we will overrun those rural areas….or let them hicks come here and die….stuff like that.
          Trolls disappear quick…probably to answer to you what is going on so that it reinforces your thinking about cities and dwellers.

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          • Absolutely. Because I definitely said “ALL CITIES” and “ALL CITY DWELLERS” somewhere in my post, right?

            Lighten up Francis.

            I am POSITIVE, from a single post, you know everything about exactly what I think. Which of course, would make you a liberal. They always know what others think and feel.

            Sad day when one who could have become a friend, makes themselves repugnant to someone who may have information and or experience they lack. But, I suppose that is how some folks think it is best to prepare for this kind of thing. First, drive away your allies, then what Skippy?

            I know! Make you place fire proof by burning it to the ground!

            The difference between stupidity and genius, is that genius has its limits! — Albert Einstein.

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            • Like any dumb republican, you came out swinging the wrong way. So I would now classify you as a RINO, or a liberal troll….I go for the liberal troll….just for everything you have posted here….

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              • Wrong again Skippy.

                I was a democrat for years, till the commies started taking over.

                I dropped them, and ran to the republican party, but, when I pulled the door open, they smelled exactly the same as the party I had just left. I am an American party member.

                But do classify me as you like.

                Is this where you call me racist, or is that the next exchange?

                When I refer to “the cities” when speaking of the liberal plans for their little civil war, I am speaking of places like Los Angeles, San Fran, Detroit, New York City and so forth. Places that have been turned to crap by liberals and progressives. And you are right about one thing, I am DUMB! Because I do not believe that even the aforementioned places are 100% infested with LibScum.

                Like I said, do classify me as you like.

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