A Small Boiler And Steam Engine Running An Alternator For Off Grid Life

This is just freakin’ sweet!

 

 

That little green pulley could have a belt on it to run other things too.

Damn, if I had way too much money……..

A small line shaft set up in a garage with that thing would be neat!

Update:

The gentleman in the video built that boiler and steam engine himself, from scratch.

He has a foundry cast the parts and he has been a welder for over forty years. He guarantees his boilers for 100 years.

After reading a bunch of the comments, it seems you can buy a small steam engine off of Ebay to get started on a set up of your own.

A little further digging and you can buy a Live Steam Engine Boiler also off of Ebay.

From the same guy.

Better be sitting down before you price those two items.

Although it’s not as bad as I would have suspected.

Under ten grand for both.

Just barely….

13 thoughts on “A Small Boiler And Steam Engine Running An Alternator For Off Grid Life

  1. Heck, get yourself an old hit-and-miss engine as a project and get that to run your tools via lineshaft. I’m sure you could even find an old lineshaft washing machine for the wife. It would be a gift she’d truly love, amiright?

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  2. If you want to build an engine, there’s no place better than the Home Model Engine Machinist Forums
    https://www.homemodelenginemachinist.com/

    The guy you want to look for is named Brian Rupnow, who loves to make hit or miss engines. He sells plans for like $25 per engine.
    https://www.homemodelenginemachinist.com/threads/verical-hit-and-miss-engine.31370/
    YouTube videos of it running on the last few pages. This is the one he built before that one:

    He has lots of them. Really nice, helpful guy, too.

    I always thought something like those 49cc engines that are used in motorcycles that are just under the limit for needing a license plate would be good for this. I think you can get about 3 or 4 HP out of them. You can buy pistons and blocks and all sorts of parts of eBay, playing mix and match to get one working. That is, I think you could since you have many years experience as a mechanic. I don’t think I could get one running that way. Or you can buy a complete, ready to run engine from Amazon for around $100.

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    • Somewhere around this area (within a 50 mile radius) there is a guy who sells kits for those scale hit and miss engines. I want to say St. Helens Oregon which is about 30 miles North of Portland, following the Columbia River to the sea. I have run across him a couple of times. He sells you the castings and you do all the machining and assembly. I have to admit I have lusted in my heart for one of those, more than once.
      The little two strokes have also interested me. The thing that holds me back on those is the inevitable two stroke oil smoke.
      I am kind of holding out and waiting to see what happens with this huge auction.
      I would really love to get my hands on a full size Hit and Miss that was in fairly decent condition. You know, instead of what I typically wind up with, some rusted out POS with missing and broken parts. I’m not holding my breath, those things have become very serious collectors items the last few years.

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  3. Been tinkering with trying out some alt-energy production of off grid power, there is an unescapable bit of physics that is like the universe’s brakes on how many ergs you can real world produce.
    Goes like this: takes 1 hp to produce 748 watts. The formula does not include a myriad of things when us men begin to build such devices, they include but are not limited to resistive line loss, drag from bearing seals, friction, mechanical loss, the tiniest mis-alignment in a mechanical transfer apparatus, belt or cog drag etc.
    I don’t know what real world hp to watt production is achievable, but making an educated guess based on my personal results, it is way below 748 watts per hp that comes out final in the end. This is the bugaboo on every type of power production. It is why steam driven power production is used, it is about the most efficient system in real world results except for big hydro.

    Thing with small steam power, big too, but something that really effects small, talking personal home steam power production, is with all the crap that falls out of the water you use for your steam. What is not well known, water is a solvent, a very good solvent, it has an affinity for a myriad of substances, and when you produce steam your basically running a moonshine still, and everything not water, or very close in specific gravity to water like alcohols, ketones etc, fall out and collect rapidly inside and on the surfaces your steam is heating and causing its heat to be transferred into mechanical energy. Scales, oxides, minerals etc. They build up very quickly. And they are highly corrosive/reactive in that highly elevated temperature environment. Your nice turbine vanes get all crusty pretty quickly, under that crust its oxidizing that finely shaped airfoil, eating your bearing seals and all that stuff.
    Big steam power has the same issues but they build and compensate for it, and provide scheduled boiler/turbine maintenance exactly cause of this. They know to the hour how long they can run till they do shutdown for maintenance. Same with hydro turbines like Hoover dam. Gas/wet fuel jet engine turbine driven electric generation, which is a very efficient system itself given a good fuel source like say natural gas or other methanes from petroleum wells can be a great option. A tiny Allison turbine, like what drives a H1 Huey or say a small turboprop plane, has a fantastic gearbox, the turbine section is so small you can hold it in two hands, but the spin at 30-50 grand rpms, and you get huge shaft torque out the gearbox.

    A really under rated power source, specially for places like here in WV, where many people get natural gas for free cause of the gas wells on their property as part of royalty from the gas well companies, is say a superb one lung Yanmar air-cooled diesel driving a 4 pole generator, 4 pole you only need 1800rpms, verses the Homeless Depot cheap chinese gasoline type generators that are 2 pole and scream along at 3600 rpm, and have a rather short life before they shit the bed. Aside from the chinese junk factor.
    Those little 8 hp Yanmar jap engines run 24/7/365, natural gas has almost no ash and other residues, you change the oil in them yearly just on good principle, the oil is practically still clear and clean in them.

    One way to deal with small home steam turbine scale buildup is to ionize and or filter the water used. And you really really need this if your going to really really run a stand alone off grid steam powered power system. You can not avoid this, but you can ignore it, for awhile. Lot of extra shit comes into the picture you need. And then there is the storage of power you produce factor, like in batteries, for high demand times, or times when your using a fraction you are producing, or you got to leave the homestead for a day or two, and also so less is wasted of the precious power your making. It gets complex in a screaming hurry. But in small power, like for your homestead after TEOTWAWKI & TSHTF, remember your in it for the looooong run, like the rest of your life, Right?

    Buddy of mine has a couple of those Lister type diesel’s, one and two lung big old all mechanical, port injection diesel’s, they have a massive flywheel, very low RPM, company up in Maine still makes them. A lot like a hit and miss engine. If you have the fuel source its a pretty good way to go far as internal combustion. Then again, to really make your off grid system work for you, power storage is what, and only what, makes such systems truly viable. Who has unlimited fuel to run an engine? Not many.
    The good old wet acid lead cell battery is pretty hard to beat, in particular “Motive” power battery sets. Like a fork truck battery. The have monster depth of draw cycle capability, ie long life under highly abusive conditions. Entirely different design and structure/capability than car starter batteries, and all the fancy high tech and rare earth batteries.

    We been running an off grid stand alone solar panel/wind turbine system for our home for 10 years now. The best way we have found to make power is surprisingly, a small amount of watts, steady, nonstop continuously feeding a big old fork truck battery, the excess, when the battery is at full charge, is “dumped” to ready DC powered devices, like 12 volt dc water heater elements heating domestic hot water tanks with lots of added insulation, and dc resistive hot air heaters. Nothing is wasted. Our wind turbine is a dual permanent magnet alternator, on a 40 ft tower, it has a 5 blade 8 ft swept rotor, it is whats called low wind turbine power, runs at 7-12 mph wind speeds, it is a torque producing rather than high speed turning blade set, so it produces 75 to 150 watts of power, but continiously, night and day, because of our location on a mountain ridge line, above 30 feet above ground, there is pretty much always a 5-15 mph breeze. It sounds like its not much power, but it adds up seriously over the day because it is whats termed as “instantaneous” power, like a 100 watt lightbulb you never turn off in reverse, this is where storing your power comes in and why its so vital.
    Unless, you have a nice steady source of power, like a year round creek, or river, you can run an undershot, or overshot wheel driving a generator or alternator, or a Pelton type water turbine wheel.
    And this last is the bee’s knee’s far as making your own off grid independent stand alone power. Very low maintenance, extremely high relative return in many aspects.
    I grew up in northern NH, everyone from Colonial times to the industrial revolution ran water wheels to power everything from saw mills and grist mills to machine shops and printing presses. They where everywhere.
    I have always thought a time will return where water power will come back into vogue, especially with the mechanical technology we enjoy today, a guy could make a dandy of a water powered shop.

    Getting back to the 748 watts per HP thing, it is like our wind turbine, some french dude came up with a theoretical theory of how many watts you can get out of a wind driven device, at the absolute theoretical max, with zero losses, the most power potential that can be obtained is 36.7 percent of the winds potential. Real world is claimed at best half that. it ain’t much, but constant, “instantaneous” power, it adds up over time, that is where your real power realization is found.

    And that is what I have discovered is the “secret” to making my own off grid power. The devil is in the details. They only show up over the long run. And because of the myriad of variables, you only know about them by doing, and learn how to go about these things thru real world experience. The unknown unknowns.

    All these fucking retards want to kill us “white race supremacists”, they are fucking out of their minds.
    By far the greatest gift the race of us Men of The West have given the world is power, abundant, cheap, unlimited reliable power. It is probably the greatest technological leap in human history.
    I seen a couple photo’s of a coal powered electrical plant in South Africa after the commie fucks and crazed tribes took over from those racist slaving Whites. The plant is stories deep buried in ash, I’m talking inside, outside, all around the plant, 3, 4 stories of ash, everythings buried under ash, till the plant was totally completely inoperable. Those running it couldnt be bothered to even cart it outside the boiler and turbine rooms. Mind blowing. Not a white face to be seen.
    A graphic depiction of total absence of sense of time and consequences. And of human corruption driving everything else to complete exclusion, and destruction.
    These greens, like donkey chompers and her human extinction movement, they are savages, they want to do the same thing, live off the fat of the new world’s technology and prosperity, run it into the ground till nothings left. Because duh white man bad or something.

    BFYTW Brothers.

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  4. Unbelievable amount of stuff the guy collected. Some of those shelf auctions are little gold mines of bits and pieces.

    Lot 139, DIAMOND T MODEL 306 TRUCK

    That would make one sweet hot rod truck. I’m gonna bid on it. Be a great reason to go cross country see Washington and some of the great north west. Night get lucky. Leave the frame and bed, the cab and nose would fit in the back of my 3/4 ton Chevy.

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      • Well yeah! Cool. You know it.
        That would be awesome Phil.
        I’m going to put in one bid near the end, see if I get lucky.

        The auction mentions what they have listed is only a fraction of whats for bid.
        Have you gone over looked over any of this collection yourself?

        The guy created a cast iron time capsule. Can’t imagine there is another collection like it in one spot.
        There’s some spectacular items might as well be unobtanium. Like those Pelton water turbine wheels. Somebody with a year round creek that has 10 or 20 foot of head height could, like in the Rockies, or a pond with a decent spring feeding it and some hill side below it, drive a permanent magnet alternator and make enough power for life to supply up to 2 or 3 homes with free electricity depending on gals per minute capacity.
        The various turning plows are not to be had around my neck of the woods at any price, they look choice condition too. There is so much stuff it boggles my mind, the guy must have spent every day of his life scoring stuff.

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